在那个有美丽极光的冰雪世界,一对母女一起生活。母亲(杨紫琼饰)在出生之时,便被萨满告知是不祥之人,萨满还说她会给身边的人带来厄运。母亲年轻时在战争中痛失爱人,并被坏人强奸,坚强的母亲设计将坏人推入深渊。母亲捡到一个女婴,带着她逃到人迹罕至的遥远北方生活,多年之后,原来的女婴已出落成美丽少女。面对艰苦的自然环境,母女俩一起经历生死考验生存了下来。可是,当母亲救回一个男人之后,原本和睦的母女关系发生改变。男人先是与母亲关系暧昧,后来又和女儿坠入爱河,并决定带着女儿离开这片无人区。母亲有为女儿梳头的习惯,一次男人外出,母亲用辫子将女儿勒死,并把她的脸皮剥下来贴在自己脸上。男人回家与女人上床时发现了躺在自己身下的居然是一张如此恐怖的脸,冰原上传来让人毛骨悚然的哀号……
冰天雪地两个女人抢一男人的故事?我感觉本来老外是喜欢杨紫琼的,感觉是她捡来的女娃投怀送抱横插一脚抢走了老外而已,杨这个时候有点不知道怎么办了,其实谁没有欲望呢,更过分的是然后两个人还在杨紫琼面前亲热我感觉真的有点过分,然后把你养这么大居然就要跟一个男人走抛弃养你这么多年的杨,我感觉弄死你就对了,其实如果可能的话两个人能商量好共享这个男人也不错,毕竟又不是真的母女,那种环境下又没有礼义廉耻只有最原始的性欲罢了,我感觉杨其实不换脸就骗老外说女儿失踪了再用自己真面目应该也能得到老外吧何必套脸呢真是的。还有一点没搞懂女主之前的男朋友被抓了,用刀已经快要割破绳子可以逃走了可是为什么要向那个军人吐痰激怒军人呢,然后被割喉,你要是不激怒军人说不定不会立马被杀你就可以逃走了呀,太傻了,哎
但凡那个女儿有点良知,体谅下母亲,也不至于落到这个结局。
但凡那个男的顾及下三人的相处氛围,就不会导致母女不合。
两个自私的人把一个偏激的人逼上绝路。
以前听说吕雉残忍,对戚夫人如何如何。后来了解历史,心中感慨,也许戚夫人在世时嚣张跋扈不把吕雉放眼里也是导致自己悲惨的结局的一个原因。
Again too long for short comments.
Somehow shocked... The scenery is really stunning in the far north, and though there's few conversation, other sounds(like the wuthering wind, the dog bark, the cracking ice and even the faint whistle from the aurora, I think) help a lot in building the environment. That will compose my impression of the polar regions hahahaha!
An important question, I wonder how much of truth it holds, will humanity really turn out like this in the most desolate situation?
As long as the answer is yes, the character of Saiva can really touch me (actually she already does). She is always lonely but desperate for love, which is magnified in the film especially by the desolation of the polar region. But since young she was expelled and constantly deprived of love (by Saman, by invaders... ), she tried to seclude herself from the human world's possible hurts, and lived with daughter as the only consolance... and maybe some sort of emotional reliance. Look, in the flashback scene she was so timid but also sweet with her short-lived lover, and even at the beginning scene when she was killing her dog, she's not so callous but portrayed some sort of attachment.
But again the daughter Anja herself deprived her last warmth and possibility of being loved. Actually I think the man prefers Saiva more... if not for Anja teasing him first. When Saiva was about to confide in the man, the daughter called him over, and later he shared his story only with the daughter... With such parallel, I wonder if the daughter knew Saiva's story, or just grew up in the isolated environment. Personally I'm inclined to the first probability, but in that case won't she know her adopter is longing for insured company and love, and won't that be too cruel to abandon her alone? Maybe that's too much for a teenager to care, who just wants to explore the world and enjoy her happiness... But can't that also be regarded as careless and disheartening? (Also I think the character of the daughter is a little flat... we don't know much about her...)
Then even the most horrifying part seems to lose power against the background of immense loneliness and sorrow...... I'm not surprised to see Saiva do so, since she's hardly been loved, she is about to lose love again, she's an experienced killer... But also there's a moment, I wonder if in exchange, Loki is taking Saiva and Anja away, will Anja do the same Saiva to take the chance of being loved? (Since when their first kiss being detected, Anja portrayed some sort of jealousy then tried to possess Loki...) And then it comes back to the question of the amount truth in this situation, will Anja really act like this and care so less? Can Saiva really made up her mind to do this to whom companied her for years?
Maybe there could be more depict of the mother-daughter bond, so the impact of the last action will be more substantial, (but I don't know how, and now i think it's okay). Michelle Yeoh again played such a loser-in-love role, I'll weep for her, hope next time and next many times she'll not be hurt.
很早以前看的片子,甚至都记不得男主是豆叔了,但是对杨紫琼还是印象深刻,冰天雪地里坚强到可怕的女性,内心存有的柔软却换来背叛和伤害,在天寒地冻,没有人迹的遥远的北方,她就是一匹孤独的母狼,残忍可怖,孤独可怜……
在被部落放逐多年后, 又亲眼目睹了爱人被杀, 她过着与世隔绝的生活却又向往着与人亲密, 所以才会出现影片结尾的不可思议的举动...ps.影片很多屠杀动物的镜头,爱动物的人最好有心理准备
“只要再多一个男人……世界就和平了。”
看完剧情简介一定会被吓着,但是看了片子就觉得Anja和男人的做法的确有点过分,他们的离开直接就再次夺去了saiva的一切,而且每次男人和Anja在一起她的笑声也被处理的分外刺耳。在恶劣的自然条件下人的情感已经被弱化了,所以可以毫不在乎的杀掉同类甚至至亲,只是当再次受到情感给予的冲击时才回忆起
一个做母亲的为了抢男人居然杀了亲生女儿,还换脸,蛮变态的。
明明是意外结局的豆列里看到的,下面的简介却把一切都说了- -不过风景真的是不错。。。看着冷死了
如果不是在随便乱翻,我已经不记得我看过这个了...彼时觉得闷极,昏暗,暧昧...如今那些凛冽的风声变成刺骨的刀...
老师给推荐的,还不错的电影。虽然影评是说人性什么的,但是我还是觉得那个养女好贱啊!!
很喜欢这部电影,可惜如此小众。最后母亲绞死女儿确实残忍,但是女儿明目张胆抢走母亲的男人,当着她的面和男人打情骂俏甚至是男欢女爱的时候,已经没有把母亲当成一个人了。当女儿告诉母亲他们要离开她去追求自己的生活,还要带走一半的食物和一只雪橇犬的时候,就已经把她逼上了绝路。我不知道女儿是有多狠的心,才能把救了自己又把自己养大的母亲一个人留在茫茫雪原上,这和让她去死有什么分别?母亲亲手救起的两个人共同背叛了她,她看透了人性的自私和人情的凉薄,她的心伤透了,死了。她杀了女儿,其实也是自毁。因为她有很多理由可以骗过男人,解释女儿的死,然后顺理成章独自占有这个男人。可是她没有,她用了最狞厉最恐怖的方式,满足了自己作为一个女人的欲望,同时也彻底报复了男人。母亲最后颤抖的哭声,是对自己一生不幸的哀歌。
三星半//标准的厌女文本 年长女性在社会环境下的弱势在某种程度上转换为对年轻女性的压迫和厌恶//“无论是回应母亲的期待,还是背叛母亲的期待,只要母亲还活着,女儿就不可能逃离母亲的束缚。无论是顺从还是叛逆,母亲都一直支配着女儿的人生,直到死后。” “女儿无法喜欢不能爱上母亲的自己,因为母亲和女儿互为分身。”//上野千鹤子.厌女[M]133
极地拍片真的勇敢,杨紫琼和杨雅慧的脸上都很有故事,可惜故事就是一个比较反情节的故事……杨紫琼被强奸,爱人被杀害,与她最后的杀女行为之间,总是好像没什么关联的样子……看到人皮面具全程想看到一些类似于“因纽特巫术”之类的东西,可惜并没有……
不考虑伦理的话,几种博弈破局的方法:1.从妈妈的角度来优化,一开始不拯救野男人才是最好;2. 从野男人的角度来优化,母女共同服侍是最好;3. 从女儿的角度来优化,私奔时分文不取/或者带上妈妈,是最好; 4. 从全局来优化,母亲拯救男人的时候先把他阉割,才是最优解。 (看的谷阿莫版,就不评分了。)
剧情太BT了还有点恶心,吃不消。。 看MK,不会打分囧
冰天雪地的,杨紫琼挺不易的呀
如果没有那些乱七八糟的媚俗闪回而专注于事态本身,可能更显深度~
之前就看过剧情介绍一直不敢看觉得太残忍了。风景真的美,在这种条件下居住也是满满的孤独寂寞,中央空调渣男的到来,母女变情敌,特别是他们三同框的时候真的很尴尬!最后走向了悲剧,老杨演起少女模样眼神有星星。真的很灵!
压抑而阴冷,很克制且隐忍的娓娓道来那最深处的人心、人性!镜头很冷,也很美!
far north.本以为是意识流原来是惊悚。有些情节对于故事是不必要的。稍显拖沓。讲人性的话还欠了火候。不过,那么冷的地方拍片怪不容易的。
3P不就完了。
北国风光,千里冰封,万里雪飘。结局真是有够惊悚,即使被简介剧透了还是惊悚。这才叫画皮嘛,周迅那个算什么。除了以上两点外片子没什么好看的。